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When I heard people talking about “menhera” especially as a style it felt so cringe to me at first, like how can mental illness be a style.

Then I realized it’s the exact same as when we did emo, which comes from the word emotional and was also all about being depressed and cutting (at least for me).

I guess it’s just a young people thing. I might have loved jirai Kei if it had been a thing when I was 13, but now I could never get into it.

I’m so sad it’s the current main youth fashion, because when gyaru was more popular, people were so much more genki and optimistic. It’s so much nicer to base your character around getting wild and being sexy than to base it around sadness.

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Ooh, that was very interesting, made me think of several things I encountered. I've encountered "Chuuni" before on 4chan's /a/. But I thought it applies only to the happy-ditzy characteristics like in "Chuunibiyo" anime. It was super interesting to see it being connected to edgelords too. Now I remember that Inio Asano decided to make a manga about a chuuni and it was "A girl on the shore", published around the 2000s-2010s. Asano's character fall into this category a lot, with "being contra mainstream", though he also deconstructs the archetype. I've read all his manga when I was a student and still enjoy them to a degree. ^^ It reminds me of some denpa 90s light novels, like with "Boogiepop" or "The Garden of sinners". Do the Japanese still use "denpa"? Anyway, I thought that chuuni defined as you did sounds super interesting, also being into counter-culture, quite like hikikomoris or the guy who assassinated Shinzo Abe. (^^")

I didn't know that about the fashion use of menhera, I've only encountered the term on 4chan, and then people meant Menhera-chan from the manga - for some time at least, now people don't know her origin and she's just treated as transgender icon. ^^ Anyway, I've encountered some girls on twitter into Japanese fashion who can be described as that (girls with mental health issues and wear Japanese fashion), I thought they are very interesting, also as a sign of a internet (?) subculture (or group) and broader trend. Something that can be seen in "Needy girl overdose" anime, I think.

I only haven't heard about Netto Uyko or Chigyu. It feels like both can often corelate on the Western internet. I haven't encountered Japanese nationalists much, but I've encountered American nationalists a lot. ^^ Interesting how the sociotypes for otaku and neckbeard evolve...

Also what you wrote is so interesting regarding Japanese society and the internet in general, I loved reading about this aspect. :) Will you write more about it? Also, if you have any books on it, I would love to read them. ^_^

(sorry for the long comment, but it was fun, interesting to read and brought some memories ^^)

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