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AngelCake's avatar

“Sex symbolizes (and is) creation itself. Therefore, ceding control of that to the state hands it a veto over art, dissent, and ultimately over thought.”

This is so brilliant, thank you!

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Razib Khan's avatar

in lutheran countries traditionally the ministers were basically gov. functionaries (as opposed to aligned with a non-state actor as in catholic nations or supported by local congregations as occurs in the USA with low church protestants). so i think you can draw a line to nordic paternalism from that. but i'm not sure that the same model works on individualistic protestantism derived from the reformed and radical reformations as easily; certainly there are moralistic crusades like temperance and the dry laws (my own home state of oregon has state-owned liquor stores), but it also births almost antimonian libertarian tendencies.

protestantism, as i see it, opened pandora's box; it's both more collectivist than catholicism, subordinating will and church to society, and more radical, stripping away potentially the mediating influence of church and pastor.

p.s. thanks for making me google "face-sitting"

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